Comments on: Version control and bug tracking http://www.lotushints.com/2009/01/version-control-and-bug-tracking/ Lotus Notes tips & tricks you always hoped you will not need Wed, 14 Dec 2011 20:40:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Vladimir Kocjancic http://www.lotushints.com/2009/01/version-control-and-bug-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-927 Vladimir Kocjancic Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:16:11 +0000 http://www.lotushints.com/?p=169#comment-927 Well, as far as I know, it should work for all source code. Well, as far as I know, it should work for all source code.

]]> By: ISam http://www.lotushints.com/2009/01/version-control-and-bug-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-926 ISam Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:52:45 +0000 http://www.lotushints.com/?p=169#comment-926 Does Subclipse work for standard design elements? Does Subclipse work for standard design elements?

]]> By: Craig Schumann http://www.lotushints.com/2009/01/version-control-and-bug-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-22 Craig Schumann Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:31:20 +0000 http://www.lotushints.com/?p=169#comment-22 I see. A lot of people who walk away disappointed with CIAO are comparing to Subversion or some other 'mainstream' source control tools which is unfortunate because it's a little bit of an apples to oranges comparison. People who know and are comfortable with the way tools like Subversion work are going to be disappointed or put off because, for example, CIAO does not have a 'repository' which the way you treat and work with your code at a very basic level. The other big problem, and this isn't meant to be an excuse, but ISVs like Teamstudio and tools like CIAO are a very low priority for IBM. As a result, most of the UI and usability issues with CIAO steam from the fact that Domino Designer just doesn't support it. For example, getting the design element currently selected in Designer (either in the design list or in the editor) isn't possible. This type of thing makes CIAO!, as you rightly observe, to feel very awkward. Anyway, thanks for bringing up the topic of Source Code and version control (this was the original reason that brought me to your site). It is not talked about enough in the Lotus community and I think it should be! Craig I see. A lot of people who walk away disappointed with CIAO are comparing to Subversion or some other ‘mainstream’ source control tools which is unfortunate because it’s a little bit of an apples to oranges comparison. People who know and are comfortable with the way tools like Subversion work are going to be disappointed or put off because, for example, CIAO does not have a ‘repository’ which the way you treat and work with your code at a very basic level.
The other big problem, and this isn’t meant to be an excuse, but ISVs like Teamstudio and tools like CIAO are a very low priority for IBM. As a result, most of the UI and usability issues with CIAO steam from the fact that Domino Designer just doesn’t support it. For example, getting the design element currently selected in Designer (either in the design list or in the editor) isn’t possible. This type of thing makes CIAO!, as you rightly observe, to feel very awkward.

Anyway, thanks for bringing up the topic of Source Code and version control (this was the original reason that brought me to your site). It is not talked about enough in the Lotus community and I think it should be!

Craig

]]> By: Vladimir Kocjancic http://www.lotushints.com/2009/01/version-control-and-bug-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Vladimir Kocjancic Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:02:23 +0000 http://www.lotushints.com/?p=169#comment-10 It is nothing against Teamstudio. I think their products are great. CIAO!, at least when I used it, was a bit awkward to use. Specially if you compare it to use of Subversion. It was nothing major. Just little bits. Like not being able to check out an item, if someone forgot to check it in. Even if they didn't do anything but save an object with another space :). Things like that. It is nothing against Teamstudio. I think their products are great.
CIAO!, at least when I used it, was a bit awkward to use. Specially if you compare it to use of Subversion.
It was nothing major. Just little bits. Like not being able to check out an item, if someone forgot to check it in. Even if they didn’t do anything but save an object with another space :) . Things like that.

]]> By: Craig Schumann http://www.lotushints.com/2009/01/version-control-and-bug-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-6 Craig Schumann Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:50:18 +0000 http://www.lotushints.com/?p=169#comment-6 Just curious what about CIAO! didn't impress you? Something I might be able to answer even? Teamstudio is very interested in feed back and if there was something that didn't work for you, we would love to hear about it. Just curious what about CIAO! didn’t impress you? Something I might be able to answer even? Teamstudio is very interested in feed back and if there was something that didn’t work for you, we would love to hear about it.

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